This episode was recorded in January 2020 but is as relevant as ever. It's no secret that elder boards and leadership teams can be full of conflict, frustration, and stagnation. But the problem is often not the people, it's the system: a bad system can even turn the best people against each other! Bob Osborne, Director of Church Health for EFCA West, has been an elder at the same church for over 40 years, and has helped a number of EFCA West leaders build the type of elder boards and governing teams that bring life and health to their congregations. Whether you're a pastor, board member, or just a curious congregation member, this podcast will help you understand what a healthy board looks like and is capable of achieving. If you're interested in personal help with either your governance documents or elder board training, please reach out to Bob at email@example.com.